As a newbie in the programming and game programming industry. I have a question regarding graphics. Should us newbies start off our games with 2D graphics and build up to 3D or should we just jump into 3D graphics?

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siaspete

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July 09, 2002 09:50 AM

Definitely 2D. If you''ve not done any 2D work before, 3D will kill you.

Or at least be a lot harder than necessary.

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Kaver

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July 09, 2002 10:27 AM

Thanks I thought I should have started off with 3D. When I saw what was invloved and got confused I bought another book on 2D games I thought I should''ve known what to do.

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davidsporn

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July 09, 2002 10:42 AM

Hi,

More especially, I would advise to start with a 2D board game, i.e. :
- game state can be easily represented as an array of data
- no real-time, only react to user input

When I started ten years ago, the first game I wrote was a memory game (written in GFA Basic on Atari... the ''old good time'')

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superpig

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July 09, 2002 11:12 AM

Yeah, 2D. Unless you are a highly qualified mathematician. 3D is full of maths.

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Kaver

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July 09, 2002 01:47 PM

Thanks for all of your replies,

I just wanted to know where can I buy VC++ 6.0 I can''t find any in stores. They are all selling VC++.net can I use that or is the language a bit different? Right know I''m using the Introductory edition of VC++ and won''t let me distribute my games. Any ideas?

Thanks

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Kaver

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July 09, 2002 01:50 PM

By the way I have just finished a "Break out" type game and I would like to try my hands on a "space invadors" type game for my next project any ideas or remarks?

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Palidine

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July 09, 2002 02:01 PM

go for .NET it''s just the newer version of vc++. they just call it .NET b/c it includes libraries for using the .NET codebase. beware that it''s a VERY expensive program (~$600 or so, i''m making this number up but it''s in the vicinity of correct). there is a student version available for much cheaper, though i forget what it is named.

goto microsoft.com and look around for the Visual Studio area of the site for a description of their product offerings.

if you want a free/cheap compiler look at g++ or Borland Free Command line tools.

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Peon

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July 09, 2002 04:43 PM

3D math is difficult, but my experience so far is that there already a lot of functions to help you out. For example, DirectX8 has some functions to multiply matrices for you. I''m sure there are a lot of other math functions I haven''t even touched on yet. I''d agree with doing 2D, but you might look into doing 2D "perspective" using 3D.

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July 09, 2002 04:59 PM

I personally went straight into 3d. i made a few qbasic programs that draw lines, but thats it. I went straight into learning 3d, but i started with darkbasic and played around with it for a while. but i was never satisfied because i got very low fps on simple things. i searched around a lot and somehow i found nehe.gamedev.net I didnt know about www.gamedev.net yet. I started with downloading tutorials and modifying the existing code to make my own effects. after more reading on nehe and other sources all on internet i started making a 3d engine and have been working on it since then. I am satisfied with the path i chose.

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