Is C++ worth the trouble????
August 29, 2002 06:54 PM
hi all,
I''m a C programmer who is now working with Direct x and making some small projects. What I''m interested to know is how many people who program in C++ actually take advantage of Polymorphism and Inheritence and all the OOP (Object - Orientated Programming) stuff in general.
I also code in Java at University and that is a totally OOP language so I have to do it there. Is it worth learning the C++ syntax or should I continue to use C with the odd touch of C++.
Any comments appreciated
August 29, 2002 06:58 PM
Most of the game industry has migrated to C++.
I use various forms of polymorphism daily. Not only is there run-time, inheritence based, polymorphism, there is compile-time, template based, polymorphism as well.
I use various forms of polymorphism daily. Not only is there run-time, inheritence based, polymorphism, there is compile-time, template based, polymorphism as well.
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August 29, 2002 07:01 PM
Yes, it''s worth it. Start learning.
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August 29, 2002 07:01 PM
i use the c++ features only when they make sense to do so... there tools and you only use the right tools for the job. but use whatever your comfortable with.
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August 29, 2002 07:02 PM
I understand that some of the industry has gone over. But I still see advertisements asking for C\C++ so it must still be in use. Is there a performance increase in C++.
In Java the benefits of OOP is just re-useable code and a more natural design approach.
In Java the benefits of OOP is just re-useable code and a more natural design approach.
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August 29, 2002 07:06 PM
The C++ syntax is the Java syntax BTW. You should find it easy to switch from one to the other, as long as you remember that C++ has no built-in garbage collection (ie, delete everything you new ).
But the C/C++ thing comes down to a matter of preference. Speaking personally, as someone who programmed in pure C for many years before switching to C++, I've found that programming in C++ using classes, operator overloading, inheritance and polymorphism has made my code easier to understand and more intuitive. There are often times when C++'s inheritance saves me time.
I do however, readily admit that my old style of writing C programs had a lot of room for improvement, mostly because of my lazyness. I guess writing programs using classes just forced me to organise my code better. Properly written C modules can be just as well organised as C++ classes, or so I've been told by reliable sources.
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[edited by - benjamin bunny on August 29, 2002 8:10:08 PM]
But the C/C++ thing comes down to a matter of preference. Speaking personally, as someone who programmed in pure C for many years before switching to C++, I've found that programming in C++ using classes, operator overloading, inheritance and polymorphism has made my code easier to understand and more intuitive. There are often times when C++'s inheritance saves me time.
I do however, readily admit that my old style of writing C programs had a lot of room for improvement, mostly because of my lazyness. I guess writing programs using classes just forced me to organise my code better. Properly written C modules can be just as well organised as C++ classes, or so I've been told by reliable sources.
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[edited by - benjamin bunny on August 29, 2002 8:10:08 PM]
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August 29, 2002 07:10 PM
Benjamin,
Thanks I think you hit the nail on the head for me. The problem with me and C++ is my design approach. In Java the files are classes so you design around them. e.g. no globals, defines etc... In C++ the file structure is the same as C. Do you know any good resources for learning code structure in C++
Thanks
[edited by - badgerc82 on August 29, 2002 8:10:34 PM]
Thanks I think you hit the nail on the head for me. The problem with me and C++ is my design approach. In Java the files are classes so you design around them. e.g. no globals, defines etc... In C++ the file structure is the same as C. Do you know any good resources for learning code structure in C++
Thanks
[edited by - badgerc82 on August 29, 2002 8:10:34 PM]
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August 29, 2002 07:19 PM
The best way I found to learn any new language is to get a book or two.
One catch with C++ when you are learning. C++ was only standardised in 1998. So many of the books out there don't cover the material which was introduced. For the most part C++ was cleaned up with a lot of nice new features. Some of them are templates and containers etc.
Personally, if you're looking for a free option, I would maybe look at Bruce Eckel's books.. http://www.bruceeckel.com
His books are published as a printed book as well, however, he allows you to download a free copy from his website.
Also reading plenty of articles etc on the various websites around etc can always help improve your skills.
Hope this helps.
[edited by - deepdene on August 29, 2002 8:22:27 PM]
One catch with C++ when you are learning. C++ was only standardised in 1998. So many of the books out there don't cover the material which was introduced. For the most part C++ was cleaned up with a lot of nice new features. Some of them are templates and containers etc.
Personally, if you're looking for a free option, I would maybe look at Bruce Eckel's books.. http://www.bruceeckel.com
His books are published as a printed book as well, however, he allows you to download a free copy from his website.
Also reading plenty of articles etc on the various websites around etc can always help improve your skills.
Hope this helps.
[edited by - deepdene on August 29, 2002 8:22:27 PM]
August 29, 2002 07:21 PM
Thanks for the help. Decided to finish my current game using C and then go onto C++ and 3d cheers guys
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August 30, 2002 08:02 AM
quote: Original post by BadgerC82
Benjamin,
Thanks I think you hit the nail on the head for me. The problem with me and C++ is my design approach. In Java the files are classes so you design around them. e.g. no globals, defines etc... In C++ the file structure is the same as C. Do you know any good resources for learning code structure in C++
Thanks
[edited by - badgerc82 on August 29, 2002 8:10:34 PM]
When I am using C++, I structure my files the same way I do in Java. One header/source per class(plus one for winmain in C++).
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