Theoretical Question with no practical application

Dreddnafious Maelstrom · 2003-01-23T17:52:36

Ok if you guys are doing anything but killing time or looking for an interesting slant then read no further... Ok, a couple of questions: My problem is two-fold: first, what, in your opinion is a good random number generator? Of course the number should fall into a range of numbers so it is not truly random but i think you get the point. Next, what algorithm might you employ to (guess|discern) what that number might be? Ok, i know that it is probably ridiculous. I also understand that it is likely impossible. Has anyone ever tried? Would the absence of a valid heuristic keep it from being attemptable? Could you use a GA, and irresponsibly cycle thru generations until chance( and statistical probability) began to score random points? My apologys if this post is a waste of space.(i warned you at the beginning) Also keep in mind that i can forsee no practical application if you could somehow accomplish this. I''m really just wanting to see if someone has a theory on how this might be done or could state simply why this could not be done.( I am of the mind that you would score points randomly without ever evolving a likelyhood greater than statistical probability, but i am open to ideas.) Anyway, feel free to shoot out any nutty idea or comments that you think are pertinent, and thank you for any time you spend considering this. Dreddnafious Maelstrom "If I have seen further, it was by standing on the shoulders of Giants" Sir Isaac Newton

Artificial Intelligence Programming

Started by Dreddnafious Maelstrom January 09, 2003 01:24 PM

32 comments, last by Dreddnafious Maelstrom 21 years, 7 months ago

Geta

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January 22, 2003 08:28 AM

quote: Original post by Beer Hunter
My claim that my RNG was better than MT was intended for comic effect, nothing more. Sorry if I sounded too serious.

Sorry I guess I missed the comic effect in my hope to have found a Psuedo-RNG that was indeed better than the Mersenne Twister. Not that I think there is anything wrong with MT, but I''m always on the lookout for a PRNG that is faster with a larger period.

I thought you might have it, but you didn''t.

No problem.

Eric

Beer Hunter

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January 22, 2003 04:35 PM

quote: Original post by Beer Hunter
But it''s quite slow

quote: Original post by Geta
Which was posted in direct response to my mentioning the Mersenne Twister.

Actually, it was posted in direct response to your asking me what the period of my RNG was.

Geta

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January 23, 2003 08:39 AM

quote: Original post by Beer Hunter
Actually, it was posted in direct response to your asking me what the period of my RNG was.

Right ... first I mention I like the MT and that it is fast and has a large period. And I ask for the period of your RNG.

quote: Original post by Geta
I agree with Extrarius, that the Mersenne Twister is
very good. Its fast and has an incredibly large period.

What is the period of your random number generator?

Then you you respond with ...

quote: Original post by Beer Hunter
But it''s quite slow.

I''d guess it''s in your quoted post refers to the MT (?) and it sure looks to me like you are claiming a speed advantage, since you go on to present code from your RNG.

Anyway, I''m done here.

Eric