hi my name is josh. i''m a newbie to OpenGL it is really neat. i started on a game and wondering if Microsoft will take it and paying big bucks. The name of the is Zombie GL Stalker 3D: a story of Jim Abram and his dog. I think NeHe is really cool. I learn how to make a 4D dog with a big sloppy togue. Here is some code from game. //basically this is a new gl interface with lots and lots //new cool stuff like 4D dogs glMakeDog_4D() { loadfrickDog(4,0.0f,"doggy pooh");//this load dog with pooh //coming out of his behind(butt or ass) }//thats all i have done right now i have been three long months //with NeHe & Tiptup. TipTup made a cool star field for the game //we had no breaks from this game where about half way done bye