Dear group... I have just gotten to a point where I''m reasonably good at 3ds 4. I want to be able to use these models in my directx8 programs? Any advice of where I should start. I have read alot about the quake2 and 3 model format, but is there anyway I can just load the models directly into my programs without exporting to those formats? Plus, I think those are ogl formats anyway. What I''m trying to say, can''t I just somehow export the vertices of my models and load them into directx? Hope I didn''t confuse anyone. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Chris Lynch