I''m trying to find the learning and training files, in the tutorials directory, that go with the tutorials that come with 3ds max 4 .. the person I borrowed 3ds max from takes too long to lend the learning and training cd to me.. i think hes ashamed to admit that hes forgotten where he put it. anyone know where i can download the files.. I already downloaded tutorial16 files.. can anyone help me with the rest If I cant get hold of them .. Ill just have to buy a book to get started.. but ill try and go down this avenue first and see if anything turns up thanx in advance people